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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 3 weeks ago #1

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Posted some pictures of my retro gas pump on Instagram and a few people have asked me to make them one, some how to make it themselves. They're a lot of work so I'm not about to make more, but happy to post up how I made mine.

Before I get into the how, there are some points to note:

First, I'm going to edit this thread a lot until all of it's done, so the thread's going to look a right mess until it's all there...

Next, the gas pump is loosely 1:10 scale. Here's two photos that put scale into context - the first is the most realistic 1:10 scale truck I have - no monster-truck tyres, no body lift, no suspension lift. This thing is as close to stock 4x4 as I can make it. The second is the JK, which has really over-sized tyres for the scale of the car (~1:8).





So that said, play with size if mine doesn't suit you. I've included measurements below, so you can work ratios out and scale it up or down as you see fit.

Another point is that mine worked out at the size it did because of the price/gallons/price-per-gallon display tumblers. The reference drawing I started with (image below) has a smaller display than mine. Same holds true - choose what works for you. If making pseudo-tumblers like I did is too much work for you, then just make a flat display. Play with it and make something that makes you happy.



Anyways, here's how I made mine. I started with the cabinet:



Here's a parts breakdown with the sizes I used -





Those red sticks in there are 2x2 mm strips I ran along all of the joins on the inside of the cabinet. This is because I rounded down the outside of the cabinet with a file, and that strip on the inside ensures that it stays strong and I don't file too much of the join away. Here's a photo looking into the bottom of the cabinet -



Finally that round thing on the top.



This is just 2 x 2 mm thick disks with a 40 mm ⌀, with a strip that wraps around them to make a phat disk to put on top of the cabinet. Photo of the assembled thing below (let me know if the drawing's confusing) -



I put that square hole in the bottom (and the top of the cabinet) because I want to put an LED in there to light it up.

Next post will cover the dials/display.
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 3 weeks ago #2

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Great write up Mike. The pictures make sense and make it easy to understand. ::thumb::
One question though, how'd you make your circles so circular ::yikes
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 3 weeks ago #3

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Thank you Mike. That's answers all the questions i had. I'll add making one to my list of builds...
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 3 weeks ago #4

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Phase two is the display. It uses old-school tumblers to display 0 to 9, and has three lines -

● This sale (current dollar-value pumped)
● Gallons (amount of fuel pumped)
● Price per gallon (this multiplied by Gallons = current dollar-value pumped)

At first I toyed with the idea of hacking up one of those tamiya gearbox learning kits to make the tumblers slowly turn when the filler nozzle is liften from the cradle. Would be simple enough with a default-off reed switch, but maybe overkill for something that's mostly just going to gather dust in a corner.

I did however want to give it that tumbler-digits feel. And so I took some 16 mm ⌀ electric conduit piping and cut two 5 mm sections from it. I cut those sections in half to make four half-circles, and stuck them onto a piece of styrene. Did the same for the next two lines of digits, but using 10 mm ⌀ styrene tube. I used a ⅓ rather than half for the middle row, and kind of hung it off the top row to maintain the vertical spacing.



Once I had that done I used some 5mm (top row) and 3mm (lower 2 rows) styrene lettering I got from Slater's Plastikard to stick some numbers onto the tumblers. Then I used another piece of styrene to cut out the holes you see the current values on the tumbers through, and used 2mm styrene letters for the display labels (This sale; Gallons; Price per gallon).



When that was done I painted both parts up.



Finally I added a frame, some lexan, and another frame painted mat black to look like window rubber, and glued it all into a thing.



I sanded the paint off the edges because that's where the glue goes to attach it to the cabinet. And that's the display done!
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #5

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Seen these on Instagram and will be making some. Really happy you've posted the dimensions :worthy:
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #6

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Finally the fuel nozzle, or whatever you call that thing you stick in your pertrol tank.
I think it's rpetty self-explanatory. The measurements are a guide more than anything else because styrene tube is difficult to source in metric. I actually used a mix - where the image says 5mm ⌀ mine is closer to 4.8 mm.







Only thing not in the drawings are the hose, the nozzle receptacle thingy, and the hole in the side of the cabinet for the nozzle. I used black 12AWG silicone-coated wire for the hose, and removed the wire. It's ~ 4 mm ⌀. The rest should be self-evident.
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #7

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How do work out the sizes of all the parts?
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #8

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neilus wrote:
How do work out the sizes of all the parts?

I don't know. Cut styrene, make a thing... If it looks too small, make another but bigger. If it seems too big, make another but smaller. All the measurements were taken after the fact.

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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #9

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Ok thats amazing stuff ::cool now make it pump whiskey in to a glass :crazy:
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #10

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Fourth Protocol wrote:
All the measurements were taken after the fact.

Aah i see. I thought you had a magical device that somehow worked out the dimensions from a photo or something. Thanks for taking the time to show how you made it ::thumb::
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #11

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dam wrote:
One question though, how'd you make your circles so circular ::yikes

Missed this ::wow I used a compass to draw a circle onto styrene, cut it out really roughly, and then go at it with a file and try make the edge as close to the pencil circle as I can get it.
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I thought you had a magical device that somehow worked out the dimensions from a photo or something.

Ah ok, I get you. Yes, I do start by determining a size. I looked at pictures of gas pumps on the internet to see how tall they looked next to cars. And then I stood a ruler up next to the Hilux and decided on a height for the pump that looked to match what I saw in the pictures.
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 2 weeks ago #12

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Fourth Protocol wrote:
dam wrote:
One question though, how'd you make your circles so circular ::yikes

Missed this ::wow I used a compass to draw a circle onto styrene, cut it out really roughly, and then go at it with a file and try make the edge as close to the pencil circle as I can get it.

If you use a pair of dividers rather than a compass you can scribe the circle in the styrene and then it snaps out as a fairly clean circle.

for reference these are what I use.

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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 1 week ago #13

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grubbybuz wrote:
Ok thats amazing stuff ::cool now make it pump whiskey in to a glass :crazy:

Thanks. And now see this ::cool

The idea a couple weeks ago was to make a '50s gas station, complete with neon forecourt and signs.



Found some pictures on Pintrest that caused me to completely change direction. I now have plywood and 2,000 popsicle sticks arriving on Tuesday. The roof in the picture above has been converted into the base for the pumps below.

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Wood for mark's "photo-opportunity-in-a-box" © ® Patent Pending ™. I'm going to be here for a while ::doh::

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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 5 days ago #15

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Because making doll houses is what you do when you're home alone on a Saturday morning ::cool



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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 5 days ago #16

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That's a lot of lolly sticks Mike, out of curiosity, how many.

It must take forever to glue it all together :wow:
Too much to list.....

Understeer is when you hit the tree with the front wheel.
Oversteer is when you hit it with the back.
Horsepower is how hard you hit the tree...
Torque is how far you drag it...

I get offended by individuals who get easily offened, get a life and enjoy it, life's too short
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 5 days ago #17

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dam wrote:
That's a lot of lolly sticks Mike, out of curiosity, how many.

It must take forever to glue it all together :wow:

32 sticks cover 10cm x 10cm. One wall is ~ 60cm x 30cm, so in theory I need 768 sticks for 4 walls, and 500 for two gables. So roughly 1,218 popsicle sticks. Never quite works out like the maths tells you though (measuring the area of a triangle as ½ x base x height is not the accuratest either), so expecting to use closer to 2,000.

Yes, gluing takes time ::rolleye Happily I've learned to get all Tao Te Ching about repetitive tasks and just imagine perfection (life without marmite) while I work.

And while I have your attention - did those blueprints arrive?
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 5 days ago #18

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Nope Mike, no sign of them. I thought with your house move you had a lot on your plate so I didn't ask the question :blush: I know, im moving in a week and a half. ::doh::

That is a lot of sticks. Are you sticking with super glue.
Too much to list.....

Understeer is when you hit the tree with the front wheel.
Oversteer is when you hit it with the back.
Horsepower is how hard you hit the tree...
Torque is how far you drag it...

I get offended by individuals who get easily offened, get a life and enjoy it, life's too short
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 5 days ago #19

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Loving this. I still need to make the Stinky Ink tattoo parlour for the garden course.
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 4 days ago #20

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dam wrote:
Nope Mike, no sign of them. I thought with your house move you had a lot on your plate so I didn't ask the question :blush: I know, im moving in a week and a half. ::doh::

That is a lot of sticks. Are you sticking with super glue.

::doh:: Disappointed, but not surprised. Sent them from work, and I think I put them in the box that wasn't mail. Will re-print and re-send.

Gluing them with bog-standard Evo-Stick wood adhesive. Works really well, but set time means using clamps. 'Specially on the corners - here's a pic of where two walls meet:



And today we got us a forecourt ::thumb::

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Exceptional ::thumb::
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 3 days ago #22

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neilus wrote:
Exceptional ::thumb::

Thanks. But it's just some lolly sticks stuck to plywood ::thumb:: All the walls (bar the gables) are done!



Those barn doors are 265 mm high, and 320 mm wide, so comfortably accomodate a Skeleton J2 Jeep. The main room is 750 mm wide and 600 mm long.





The whole thing disassembles into constituent parts without a single nail or screw. Here's all of it in a pile:



Next up are the gables and then the roof. And after that, if I'm still in the mood for it, doors and windows.
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Killer ::cool
Too much to list.....

Understeer is when you hit the tree with the front wheel.
Oversteer is when you hit it with the back.
Horsepower is how hard you hit the tree...
Torque is how far you drag it...

I get offended by individuals who get easily offened, get a life and enjoy it, life's too short
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 12 hours ago #24

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dam wrote:
Killer ::cool

Thanks ::thumb::

Structure is done. Not happy with the roof support, but that's an easy fix - just not today. Photos outside would've been sweet but it's wet and I've yet to work out how I'm going to weatherproof the thing.

That support isn't glued in yet. It's straight, normally :smoke:



The Freedlander is in there for show. I won't drive trucks under there - too easy to crash into the pumps.









Can start on all the detail now. First up as mentioned is fixing the roof. Then garage doors and windows. And then we'll see...
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 12 hours ago #25

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This is very cool, put my scale garage to shame!
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 2 months 8 hours ago #26

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damohick wrote:
This is very cool, put my scale garage to shame!

Thanks, but technically they're not the same. Yours lets you photograph your trucks in it. Mine lets Mark photograph something that isn't leaves :whistle:

I said I can assemble it in 60 seconds. I lied. I can do it in 20.

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That's awesome,



Just needs some remote controlled roller shutter doors :-)
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 1 month 4 weeks ago #28

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It amazing what you can do with some basic materials :jawdrop:

Is it going to live out side then?
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 1 month 2 weeks ago #29

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Constantly blown away by what this guy does. Stopped for gas today
Untitled by mhnhaven, on Flickr
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1950's Retro Gas Pump 1 month 2 weeks ago #30

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Pity that I forgot to bring the forecourt roof ::doh:: But it has garage doors now ::thumb::



Hey and if anyone wants to make one, I got the idea from a concept for a 1/48 scale model made by a guy called Charles Doan. Mine's very roughly based on his.
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